>> they seem very big now. what we did was terrible, but you're talking about handling the crisisi am sorry, my son has just told me not to gesticulate. i don't believe that either he or mr hinton made any great mistakes. were mistakes made within the organisation? absolutely. were people that i trusted or that they trusted badly betrayed? yes. >> finally, to james murdoch, it was reported that when rebekah brooks spoke to staff to announce the closure of news of the world, she said that in a year's time they might understand why the paper had to close. i won't ask you to comment on what she thought in saying that, but what is the significance of the period of time of a year? do you expect there to be significantly more revelations that, with hindsight, made the closure of news of the world inevitable? >> i can't speak to what she was specifically referring to. she made those comments herself when she was saying goodbye, sadly, to the staff. i can say that what happened at the news of the worldthe events leadin